Wednesday 9 December 2009

Welcome to the B 4 a Message Board

This is the only formal posting that I am going to do here. Just leave your own comments now to create our own Baclofen community. I will certainly join in if you do! I know it's not perfect, but it's the best I can do at the moment!

If you're not already a member of Blogger, simply go to blogger.com, and join in with us. It simple, only takes 5 minutes, and is absolutely free!

166 comments:

  1. I will start you off. Thanks for the comments on TFTD about SO. I am already looking into it. As you may or may not know, she no longer has a show in the UK, or indeed much of anything in the UK now. Leave it with me.

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  2. of course the first, I think this is a great idea......I hope it takes off..........I just had an update on the new bac i received from a different pharmacy due to insurance/$$ issues, this is the real thing, don't know the name of the old pharmaceutical co who supplied the stuff I have been taking up until now, but this is the real deal............wow, made by Usher Smith, I am feeling the somnolence big time, not a desire to drink at ALL, w/ all the crappy stuff going on, that is nothing short of a miracle............so will need to wean down to a realistic dose, thought there was something going on w/ the fact that this thin frame could handle 200mg and not feel the switch, glad for an insurance F/up!!! I guess..................just wanted to share that, no falling again, still hurting though, that sucks!!! MA

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  3. Very glad to hear that Mary Anne! :) I'm extremely relieved.

    Could you describe the baclofen you had before, when it wasn't working? Where did you get it?

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  4. Phillip, we need a link back to b4a.com from your blogs, the TFTD and the B4A blogs.

    Is there any free message board software out there? I know the message board we use at thesinclairmethod.com is at least very inexpensive.

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  5. sorry to take so long to get back to you Evan.......before(couldn't find the brand on the bottles, but will have to research....) they were working at first (placebo effect??) but I kept upping my dose, til at 200mg/day I felt very mild somnolence, guess it was just a weaker version?? the new med is from UpsherSmith,and I am feeling really alot of somnolence, side effects that I thought others were crazy for feeling before, as I never had................so just be careful I guess............I had been since August taking weaker med.........now I feel so much better about it in so many ways..........best of luck to you!! MA ;)

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  6. is anyone else worried??? Has anyone heard from Dr. Phill?? If so please post or email me ("Trixie")as w/ his liver pain yesterday and disappearing off the face of the earth, I certainly am.................MA

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  7. I seem to be quoting Mark Twain a lot recently, however
    "The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated".
    I will say more on the Diary.
    Thank you Evan, you are right. I thought that yoy could just use the "back" button, but maybe this doesn't always work.
    To be honest, I'm such a Luddite. I hadn't heard of a "free message board" until I read your comment! I shall look into it. But please keep on with this for now. It's not that bad, Evan!!!

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  8. glad you are ok, Dr. Phill!!! Keep us all posted, we all care................MA

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  9. Thank you MaryAnne. I am humbled by how much so many of you care.
    I will keep you posted.
    Too many quotes .... Here's one of my own
    "There's a little girl here who needs me"
    Rubbish quote, but what better reason is there not to die early.
    None of us are too old to learn.

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  10. Ok? I hope you feel better really really soon Phillip, and btw I like your quote.....MA

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  11. I hope and pray you are ok, I am sure everyone here feels the same..............get some rest...........MA

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  12. Painkillers for what Phillip? The hepatomegaly?

    I remember when my fiancee was driving me to the ER at 3:00 am for acute toxic hepatitis. They shot me up with loads of dilaudid. Miserable life. I will be forever grateful that she was there for me. I will be forever regretful that I didn't find out about The Sinclair Method and Baclofen until one month after she had to leave me.

    I hope you feel better soon Phillip. -E

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  13. Hi Evan
    Thank you so much for your kind wishes. The painkillers are for pain in my right side and chest. Probably not liver related, but we not sure yet. But the exam did show up that my liver enlarged.
    I have had really great women there for me. One in particular. I have often said that I would've been dead without her. Today, I'm hoping that she made it in time.
    Some people say that you should never have regrets. They obviously have never suffered with HFD (see my Diary). HFD has many terrible complications. Regrets is very high of that list.
    I really feel for you and the loss of her. She sounds like she was well worth keeping. I wasn't the first, and unfortunately my friend, you won't be the last.
    Take care, and thank you
    Phillip

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  14. a selfsh post on the way this disease ruins many lives, not just our own..........I am dealing w/ a person stuck in the middle who doesn't give a crap about what it has/had done w/ our marriage/faimly and it hurts..................has been a really really rough, in more ways than one, emotional day............sorry to take this thread to another direction. but it does suck on every level..........MA

    hope you are feeling a little/lot better Phillip.............lots of love to all............MA

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  15. Dear dear Trix. Oh, how I wish you might be right!!

    I will make you a promise here and now, my friend. In the unlikely event that I do have a site that is so popular, I will always be there for you personally.

    It will be my privilege.

    Pip
    xx

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  16. hey there!! I am glad to know you loop, guy!!!! I am so happy to have some people from MWO join this site, as I think it needs more recognition, and can help alot of us suffering w/ this affliction.........still admire your knowledge on everything..........glad to know who you are..........smiley face!!! MA

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  17. OMG I didnt even know this existed, usually only go to TFTD blog. So glad I found you all here. I got my Baclofen today, I hope its not the watered down version you got Mary Anne, I have waited so long for it. Its a generic one called Bacmax from India (Hmmm I wonder) I will let you know how I go. So excited. Dr Phill I hope you are feeling better, our thoughts are with you.

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  18. A question for Evan
    I want to start a page that provides a critique of as many brands of Baclofen as I can.
    If you have already done it, or one exists elsewhere, there is no point in me reinventing the wheel.
    However, notwithstanding that, I was thinkin along the lines of asking as many members as possible to provide information on a (say) 1 to 5 linear scale of their satisfaction, side effects / service / price etc. You know the kind of thing. This could then be averaged for each brand / supplier.
    It would, of course, require people to join in, but it is an issue about which I receive a lot of personal e-mails. It does concern people. I have seen similar discussions on MWO.
    Consequently, it would require me to actively seek contributions on MWO, with regular reminders. However, I don't want to cause any more trouble for myself or the site!! I know my motives are honourable, but there's always someone waiting to have a pop at me.
    Thanks Evan

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  19. just wishing everyone well this pm.............still getting used to (or trying to) the work hours, my body clock is all messed up, but I have to do what I have to do........separated from Mike, THANK GOD!!!! but rough times ahead, thank you all for being here, and Phillip/Pip/Phill for starting this site, I am an addict........w/the weather sucking and all this is my life besides my art..........love and hugs guys!!! MA

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  20. Where is everyone ?? Just hanging out in the sun at the pool enjoying my day before going in for 12 long hours tonight, at least I get away from my sorry ex husband, yet another win-win situation there! Hope you are all well, you too Pip, and not hurting too terribly. MA

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  21. I think that's a great idea Phillip! I'm especially interested in cowgal's bunk batch... :/

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  22. You must know her much better than I do, Evan! It sounds like an interesting product. I shall enquire further............

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  23. what is bunk batch?? at typo of mine no doubt??? you guys are funny, heading out to my back doc, giving them a pic of their dog for Christmas, makes me feel good to give...............then will be available except for the med pass at work, then a boring night, thank GOD for artwork............Tanya is going to help me design a websight, as my ebay thing didn't get any bids, and everyone on facebook says I really should pursue this.................the art stuff I mean.......................new life, born again at 46, had a marvelous horseback ride this pm................weather is gorgeous, loving life right now..................xoxo everyone, Phill, I hope you are feeling ok..............MA

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  24. Curious, guys, you are killing me!?

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  25. I think you r talking about my bad batch of bac??? I hope.. call me a dunce!?!? Ditz!? Hahaha, at least I can laugh at myself!!?? And you all!!! Xo MA

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  26. Yeah MA, sorry. I am really curious about your bad batch of bac. Yours is the first I've heard of but if it happened to you it's possible that it might be happening to more people who don't even know about it. That's horrific!

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  27. Probably wasn't "bad" as much as not as good of quality as this stuff I have now, i was actually taking 200 mg/ day without any real help, I think it helped at first, but it was just weaker than this, I am going to go to the pharmacy tomorow to inquire on the company who manufactures it, so will let you know tomorrw at some point....... Man, I am soooooooo tired and I have 5 hours left!!!!!! Don't know how I can take it, drank so much coffee and it is making me sick in my stomach......,sorry to gripe, but Evan I will definitely let you know the brand tomorrow....... Have a good one, talk to you soon!!! MA

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  28. Yeah I was interested in know that too. I got my Baclofen from 4RX.com, but have another site that delivers much quicker. I will try them next.

    I have no idea whether my batch is any good. I am only on day 2, just had 3 (15ml) scotches to be "socialable" with hubby. He has no idea I am on Baclofen. I stopped after I started to feel light headed, (on an empty stomach) plus i had taken another tablet, and didnt think it was a good idea to drink alcohol with the meds. Probably a really good idea!!!!!

    I have no idea if its working or I am determined, and a bit frightened to drink whilst on Baclofen, as Pip has put the fear of God into me about drinking while on the stuff. I think he means heavy drinking, but I am torn between that too. Part of me wants to sit here and drink more, but I have resisted. So perhaps this indicates that I need to increase my dose. All an experiment. Very tired, but not as bad as yesterday.

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  29. I have MA's typo disease - lol. Too bad you cant edit. I meant I was interested "to" know that too.

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  30. NC here. I am beginning to post more on MWO. Am on Pacifen bac from In House. At 110 mg a day. Still have cravings but for the first time in years I have gone to bed the last three nights sober. I always drink until I pass out, so there seems to be some progress. Am slowly upping dose. This is a great service that Dr Phill has started. Thanks.

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  31. Welcome NC, great to see you here and part of our "secret army" - any info you have re your Baclofen experience is greatly appreciated.

    I have only just started my journey and am only 3 days in. Cravings havent gone, I am still drinking and when I drink I get the taste still, but am managing to stop although I dont want to. I will increase my dose in a couple of days. Still only on 30mg a day, so a way to go, but Im so hopeful.

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  32. Welcome welcome welcome NC!!!! happy to hear you ar on bac, it is super cool to go to bed sober, isn't it!!?? Love having you here!!! MA

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  33. Welcome indeed NC, and thanks for the Baclofen Report. It is already on the site.
    Trixie tells me that I won't know what's hit me when this thing reaches its critical mass. I can feel the rumblings already, but that might be the garlic eclairs I had for tea! Ha!!
    Spread the word, my 'secret army', spread the word
    Pip xx

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  34. I seem to be posting the same info on both sites. Sorry to be redundant. Better too much info than too little. I think getting on these sites in the evening is therapeutic and maybe helps me not to drink. Whatever it takes.
    NC

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  35. Trix, post away, that is what we(I am anyway) here for!! Cutie, I hope you have/had a wonderful time at your party!!! I am confident you did/are/will...Let us all know tomorrow(sorry, probably off w/ the time difference...............you expained to me once, duh!!??loing this growing army!!!!!! Love, MA

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  36. seems to look fine from here,i hope you get it ironed out tho....................

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  37. It was a total world wide problem with the server. More than half a million sites! I e-mailed MWO 'cos the server said it might not have been even sorted today. In fact, it was back on and sorted within 15 minutes of me e-mailing, so I needn't have bothered!!

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  38. hope you are well.................all our thought and prayers are here for you.............MA

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  39. Loving the positive thoughts Pip!!!! Great to hear!!!!! Keep us posted PLEASE on your results etc, praying & hoping all the best for you!! MA

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  40. Donde estas?? Where is everyone, guess I am the only one here w/ too much time on my hands?! Hope all is well w/ everyone. Just sitting here at work multitasking a bunch of nothing! Hope you are feeling ok Pip & the Tramadol is not kicking your butt too much!!

    Bye for now, hope Evan, Trix& NC are all ok!! MA

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  41. Well, I have the liver scan tomorrow morning. I was going to ask you all to wish me luck, but nobody seems to be using it anymore.

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  42. Pip,
    Good luck. I was invited to a tailgate party last night at a football game in Charlotte, NC.
    Lot's of drinking. I socialized and had two light beers over three hours. We all went to the game. I had water and everyone else drank beer and wine.
    After game party, just water for me. Today no desire for any alcohol yet. I may have my usual half glass of wine with my wife. I am still cautiously hopeful. Normally at such an activity I would have been wasted before the game.

    Trix, Mary Anne keep posting your progress. Evan, I have posted on the Sinclair site with a question on Nal and Bac. If you don't mind, could you take a look at the post and let me know what you think.

    Thanks.

    NC

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  43. oh my!!! Phillip,we all care and you will be deeply in our thoughts tomorrow for your scan.............hope and pray, sending positive energy and vibes your way, that it comes out to be fixable............we all need you..........you need to finish that book!!! Cannot wait to read it!!!! best of luck, and don't EVER think we are not here thinking of you!!!! MA

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  44. Hi everyone

    Liver scan shows what a fat bastard of a liver I've got, but it has not had the consumately rude indecency to bite its host on the arse by becoming cirrhotic. If I keep alcohol-free (thank God for Baclofen), then I should be able to reverse the lardy tendency before it turns into NASH and eventually cirrhosis. This will be my TFTD, after I've had a few drinks to celebrate!!! Ha!!!

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  45. Do not even say that!!! Unless we can join you.............glad, so happy to hear your liver is fine, fatty liver, from what a nurse knows, is common, hell, I am only 120 lbs if that, and probably have one!!??? Glad, so happy to hear the good news!!YAY!!!! MA

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  46. My sister, a high-powered commercial property lawyer said "So, that's OK then, your test just showed that you're fat. We could've saved them the bother".
    I love my brother in law. Don't know what he sees in her!!

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  47. Pip,
    Glad it was good news.
    NC

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  48. fatty liver doesn't neccesarily mean you are "fat"......like i posted earlier.........your liver, as you know more than me, processes everything that goes through your body, all that fat comes from more than just being "fat", u can always pick up exercise too, if you think you ARE fat, but you probably are not..............just my 2 cents for what it is worth...............and like NC said, and all of us think, glad u r ok!!!! YAY!!!! MA

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  49. Thank you as always, MA. You are so sweet, you sometimes don't realise how innocent you are!

    Your innocence, what you call 'ditzy', makes me giggle.

    I know that I have lived more of a life already than most could live in 10 lifetimes, and that I still have 10 more lives to live in what time I have left.

    My comments about 'past my sell by date' etc were to do with how I might be perceived by some of those close to me. Maybe, to some of them, that 'brilliant young light' has well and truly gone off. Well, Baclofen in hand, I can tell them that they're wrong.

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  50. Pip, hope u are alright, that is mostly what matters, if my "ditziness" makes you smile that is worth anything in the world!!! Drinking my tonic/quinine water, since I cannot get quinine here for some odd reason............well, along w/ potassium, magnesium and all the calcium I take
    (should have super strong bones, eh?)u r great, happy u r doing well now!!! MA

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  51. Hey all,
    Just wishing everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Bac has been a wonder for me and your support and knowledge also a wonder.
    I look forward to continued positive interaction during the new year.
    NC

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  52. Hi everyone, I havent been here for a while. Hope you all had a wonderful Christmas.

    I have reached 70mg of Baclofen now, and the switch is still to be reached, had a bit too much Christmas Cheer yesterday. I thought i could have just one or two glasses of Bubbly (my favourite poison) after drinking "weak" scotches since lunch time, but alas drained the bottle. Hmmm, I'll just pause while you all slap me.

    Ok, that hurt - never mind. I am not beating myself up over it, mind you isnt it interesting how this HFD works. I had almost convinced myself that I dont need Baclofen (whilst drinking of course) and that i should wean myself off of it, starting today. Luckily common sense kicked in when I sobered up. I will continue on until I have the success that you all have.

    Thanks for all being here.

    Love you all.

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  53. happy it is all over!!! Glad I made it (barely sanely, guess who knows that for sure??) looking forward to 2 days off...................these hours at work are KILLING me, slept ALL day(most of it anywayy) yesterday, what a waste.............glad to hear/read everyone is ok................love, MA

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  54. hope everyone is cool and ok,feel like the only one here.................???? love, MA

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  55. Nah I'm here too MA, you're not alone. Don't know where everyone else is though????

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  56. Hey MA and Trix,
    NC here. Cool and OK. Hope Dr. Phill is doing well.

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  57. Good to hear NC, havent heard from Dr Phill for days, hmmmm.

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  58. Hi everyone.

    I'm back and fine too. Had a weird XMas. But not been near a pc for a few days. I needed a bit of a break after the last few weeks.

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  59. Good to hear, welcome back we missed you.

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  60. MA,
    I remember you commenting you had some days where you were really hyper, off the wall type days. I had two of those after increasing doses and had to cut back. They were worse than the somnolence. Couldn't concentrate on anything, felt unstable physically. Haven't had anymore since titrating more slowly.

    NC

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  61. Oh great so there's more to look forward to.

    I have just cut back after having 5 days of intense somnolence. I was about to increase from 70mg to 80mg, and then I had a huge hit of the somnolence, I was dizzy, felt unsteady like you say NC, and really did NOT like the feeling one bit.

    I am now going to sit at 50mg for a while and see how I go.

    I read this on Wikipaedia:

    "However, oral dosage must be carefully regulated; significantly high doses of the drug, particularly 80 milligrams per day or higher, can cause excessive drowsiness that can interfere with daily function."

    That was me on 70mg!!!!!

    I also was snoring like mad, keeping my husband awake most of the night. I do a meditation program, and during that I woke myself up 4 times from snoring, LOL. Its easy to fall asleep while listening, espcially when you are like the walking dead anyway. Not funny really, it didnt help with the somnolence.

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  62. Glad to see everyone bac(almost besides Evan?!) sorryabout the hyperness, does suck but haven't had it since this new stuff.... Doing great today, saw my divorce lawyer, bawled my eyes out, she was so sweet, gave her a huge hug at the end of our visit, will be rough but worth it, thank god for bac, otherwise I'd be in a downward spiral right now!!

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  63. So great that our little group is still there! I am not great enough to merit the term quorum (actually we don't anyway, but what the hell!!).

    So, my quorum, there is much to do, and so few to help us. Their loss.

    I'm going to make some changes in the site in the New Year. Any suggestions? I'm not Robin Hood, but you are my band of merry men and women. I've no idea what to do next, but Trix will help me with the stuff she has suggested, I hope. I've done a bit, and it has worked a bit, but I'm just too thick to try to learn the whole world in one year. I've done my very best, but now my efforts are spent, with regard to html, tags, googleAd etc. I'm totally out of my depth.

    But I will carry on.

    Why?

    The answer is, unfortunately for you, the grandiose verbeage of a consummate sufferer of that Vicorian melancholia that they term alcoholism. I did warn you....

    "Cos, no fucker else will."

    Help me in this task, my merry band. But you have been warned!! But, believe me, many out there need us. They're just too scared to ask. They need to feel safe enough to speak, not just read. That's your job.

    Pip xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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  64. I think that hardest part for people out there that read and not post, is admitting to themselves that they have a problem. Maybe if we dont use the word Alcoholic so much as Alcohol Abuser it may coax those out there to come out of hiding.

    I dont know, just my opinion, i still hate the term Alcoholic, its so.....dunno - not me, but then it is. You get what I mean. Its hard to admit it to ourselves that we have let ourselves get that far. However, I can cope with the label "Alcohol Abuser" Just me, kinda stupid.

    As for the whole world of Internet Marketing, its not that hard Pip, if you have the desire. I hope I can help you out, and take the pressure off you. Who was the other guy who gave you quite a bit of feedback on MWO, was it NC or Lo0p - cant remember. He sounded quite knowlegeable in that are too.

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  65. Mary Anne, just read your post. Its all uphill from here darl. No one ever said splitting up was easy.

    To follow in Pip's footsteps, may I sing a tune to you:


    "They say that breaking up is hard to do, now I know, know that its true"

    Wasnt David Cassidy a cutie when he sang that?? It was David Cassidy wasnt it?? Now Im showing my age. LOL

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  66. I hate you. May you burn in Hell. Ha!!!

    Not six hours ago my sodding sister was singing the "Fkng" Partridge Family's Family Christmas album to me. She still has both the vinyl LP and her David Cassidy pillow. Bet her husband loves that!!!

    Aaarghh!!!

    Thanks Trix. I will get you back for that. Oh, yes. I will. Aren't you glad we're half a world apart?

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  67. LMAO, well I will definitely never bring that up again, wont be able to anyway, seeing as I will be burning in hell.

    I still like the song and David Cassidy, not as much as my sister did (must be a sister thing) she used to kiss his picture good night - Ewww!!

    Sorry Pip.

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  68. Don't get me wrong, I used to kiss his picture goodnight. I still do. Every night. I just don't like his music. It's rubbish. But he is kissable. Even for a 48 year old man.

    Let's see where that gets me, Trix.

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  69. What is LMAO? It worries me. How can be sure? In a world that's constantly changing.

    Please help me

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  71. LMAO = Laughing my arse off!!!

    And you kiss David Cassidy's picture every night, that is a scary thought. LMAO

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  72. It is very scary for Mr Cassidy. Unfortunately for him, he is in the Hotel California. It's bad enough that he only gets me every night, but there's "mirrors on the ceiling".

    Poor sod.

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  73. Lmao too, u kiss David Cassidy's pic every night?!?! Wow!! Yes 2010 is going to be most excellent in many ways, very happy right now even tho my evening of fun has changed into running errands/shopping etc. Rather than going out, maybe safer for me but I really don't want to be home w/ mike...... Oh well it's all good just the same, happy new year every one!!!! Lots of love, MA

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  74. Look. I know I'm in trouble for all that MWO stuff.

    Good!

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  75. I dont get what all the the fuss is Pip????

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  76. Nor do I. I'm not even going to look on MWO from now on.

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  77. Pip,
    Just keep doing what you are doing on your site.
    It is good. We can try to steer people there.
    You don't need any unwarranted grief.
    NC

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  78. thank you my friend. i appreciate it.

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  79. Looked all good just now, Phillip, u were getting all copacetic w/ everyone, even Tip seems to support u!!! Maybe he WILL join u for a beer after all!? Just joking!! Glad to see u back on there, networking helps your cause!! It will and this site will flourish, I feel positive vibes! MA

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  80. Ok where is everyone??? Phillip??? Trix?? NC??? Just thought I'd check in as I am bored here at work and still have 8 hrs to go?!!! Doing good today, slept most of the day, too friggin cold to do much else! Love you guys, hope u r ok!!! MA

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  81. Lol, Im here MA, doing ok. I am having another AF day today, I had one yesterday cause I was so hungover, and I have decided that I AM going to have two AF days a week. Mon and Wed. Just because I went and f%$#ked it up for myself yesterday, doesnt mean I can get out of my AF day today. Monday is an AF and thats that. I have to get tough and believe that I can do this, otherwise whats the use, it just keeps winning.

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  82. Hello everyone,

    Nice to meet you all. My story is on the "Your Stories" page. (See BigD). I've been on the Bac for almost 6 months now, and it's been quite the roller-coaster. I had some problems at 170, then more at 150, so I'm giving 135 a shot. No cravings to speak of. I also hide behind a 125mg Antabuse shield every morning. I figure every little bit helps. I've slipped up a few times, but Baclofen has definitely reduced the cravings big time. It's the real deal. I'll be on it for life I'm sure. Talk with you all soon. D.

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  83. Welcome Deric, nice to have you on board.

    The more the merrier.

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  84. Thanks Deric. You said you would, and I'm grateful.

    Let's pursue "the more the merrier", team. I can feel a TFTD coming on. Leave it with me!

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  85. Bit quiet in here, hows it all going everyone? Are you feeling better now Pip?

    I am most proud to say that I am having my second AF day this week. After Baclofen took me to zombie land for a few weeks, I have decided to see how I go really trying hard to not drink on my own. Now I have no idea how long this will last for, as I would lurve to pour a bevvie for myself now. But Im going to give it my best shot (and I dont mean a shot of scotch).

    Ok, dont be strangers you lot!

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  86. Hiya Trix
    Yeah, I'm feeling great now that the "dog pooh" migraine has long gone. I can still smell it now. Awful, but that's what you get sent if you cross certain secret agencies. One of them stabs you with an umbrella with "Agent Dog Pooh" on the tip. Are you sure that you're not an undercover agent?
    Now, to much more important things than my attempted assassination. I am so proud of you, my friend. Your steely resolve with get you there. One Day At A Time is a cliche, because it is right. We are all here for you. And don't forget that diet coke is poisonous!
    In fact, because of its caffeine content, it may well be a big No-No for anyone trying to come off the sauce acutely. More about that in my books, if I can ever be bothered to finish them.

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  87. One of you, or somebody else who reads this, said something really interesting recently about how people like us are put off joining in because we hate the thought of being ascribed the label "alcoholic". He (but more likely she) said that we should find another way of describing it to bring more people in.
    "Popularising Alcoholism" - making it acceptable to society. I like it!!!
    Who was it that suggested it?
    Tell me, or else I won't tell you what I have come up with. Ha!!!
    Pip xx

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  88. Thank you for your support Pip and everyone here. I did havemy AF day yesterday, its not hard atm, as i feel like crap. Once I start to feel a bit more normal, it may be a tad harder. I'm staying positive.

    It was me (dont hit me) who said that Pip, about not liking the label "Alcoholic" its just so......I still dunno what. I suggested Alcohol Abuser, up to you what you do with it, it was just a suggestion.

    Hey MA,NC & Evan where are you????

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  89. And Deric, we must not forget Deric.

    Now you can tell us what you came up with Pip!

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  90. Hey Trix,
    NC here. To everyone, I am not making as much progress as I had hoped. Still slowly titrating up, I mean really slowly, like 5 mg every three or four days. But, have not experienced any of those really hyper days that were really bad. But, I am having cravings. Still not drinking much, but I was hoping to hit the switch by now. I will just keep going up slowly. Had three glasses of wine tonight. More than I would want, but still not drunk.

    Trix, I could give you my titration schedule if you want. It seems to be painfully slow for me, but I don't want to experience the side effects I had earlier, ie bad somnolence with occasional hyper days.

    NC

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  91. Pip,
    What is the deal with diet Coke? I have been drinking a lot of it since starting bac hoping that the caffeine would help with the somnolence.
    NC

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  92. Hi
    There are several points about caffeine, NC
    Lots of us, irrespective of Baclofen, replace our reduced alcohol consumption with lots of caffeine. That trait appears to be very common. The problem is that, especially early on in the recovery process, regular good nutrition is paramount. Excessive caffeine intake reduces appetite, and speeds your metabolism.
    Secondly, excessive caffeine increases your sense of excitability and anxiety. This has been shown to increase the cravings for alcohol, and been a significant factor in relapse.
    Lastly, the somnolence associated with Baclofen almost always fades over a few days to a wek at any particular dose. Trying to counteract it is unnecessary. Polypharmacy, my friend. Polypharmacy.
    Many therapists prohibit any caffeine whatsoever in the early stages of alcohol withdrawal. I agree. When I stopped caffeine totally, it all becam so much easier.
    Hope that helped.

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  93. Well thanks for that Pip, you have put the fear of God into me re DC.

    I have received emails over the years telling me of its horrific contents and what it can do to you. My husband drinks regular Coke like its going out of fashion and that's a bit disgusting too. Have you seen what that stuff does to old coins?

    I have a couple of bottles (of DC) left, but I vow to never drink the retched stuff again. I am now enjoying my second and last glass of Shiraz. Don't drink red much, but its good for me, in moderation of course, and that's what I plan to do.

    Thanks NC for bringing that up.

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  94. My concept for "alcoholism" if the term is scary (and I know that it is) started as it being an "alcohol sensitivity" or hypersensitivity. Maybe even a form of food allergy. Others have said the same.
    It is undoubtedly a disease, and recognised as such.
    So, after much deliberation, and I mean no offence to those who work in this field and know much about it than me, I think that we suffer from an Alcohol Sensitivity Disorder. That works perfectly for me. Once I rationalised it like that, it made so much fall into place.
    I'm not an alcoholic. I suffer from ASD.
    What do you lot think?

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  95. Hiya
    To be honest MA and Trix, I joined Facebook to see what it was all about and because my neice made me. I still don't know what it is all about!! What is it for?
    Beats me!
    xx

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  96. Facebook is awesome. Its a great way to keep in touch with your friends and see whats happening. Isnt it MA and Evan???

    How is everyone, very quiet here.

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  97. It may well be awesome. But what is it for? I don't know what to use it for.
    I know that I'm an old fart, but I just can't quite work out what it does, and why.

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  98. for the 19th time, you are not an old fart, neither am I!! I am 46, you are only 2 years older, right??? Secondly, facebook is a great way to get your word out,communicate with others and post pictures,what is going on in your life and get feedback...............sorry I have been MIA, been going through stress, but day 4 totally af, and going to stay that way,thanks to determination and bac!! hi all!! MA

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  99. Hi all, hope you are well...............guess everyone is MIA, is that time of year, thinking of backing out of the divorce right now..........I hate this stress, is it worth it??

    MA

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  100. Hey all, still titrating up slowly. Stopped the diet cokes as per Pip. No more caffeine.
    NC

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  101. Hi everyone
    Went away for a few days peace and quiet. Wish I hadn't now. Backfired big time. Glad to see that my note about caffeine has hit home. Let us know if it makes any difference to you.

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  102. Well, sorry I have been MIA, will start on the work tomorrow, please get me a refernce photo...........everyone ok??? MA

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  103. What backfired Pip?

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  104. Hi Trix
    Building bridges, my friend. Building bridges.
    Being an alcoholic. you have to be the Isambard Kingdom Brunel of bridge building. The problem is that some '*******' don't want them re-built. And they spoil. Big time.
    Only one wanted to spoil. And he did. For us all.
    *******!!!!!

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  105. What seems to be the problem Pip??

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  106. Are you serious? I only spoke with her a couple of days ago, she was doing fine. I'm in total shock. Shit alright.

    How did you find out?

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  107. Mike then Evan e-mailed me. Had quite a few more since.
    She was found by her best friend, who also knows lots of the people on the forum. That's how word spread so quckly.
    I'm sure that it's because he turned the boys against her so much a XMas and New Year. That was a wicked thing to do, and broke her heart. He also did a particularly horrible thing a couple of days ago, which you probably know about.
    It's very very sad, and very very wasteful.

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  108. For those of you who don't know the latest, MaryAnne is still the same. She has moved her eyes a little and seems to be trying to move her legs. She is still on full life support. Worryingly, a neurologist is seeing her tomorrow to attempt to determine brain activity. That's not good.
    But we must all keep praying.
    On a purely personal and selfish note, I was really getting it back together with my wife and it was fantastic. I was thrilled.
    She has seen what I have written on MWO about MaryAnne as a tribute to a friend, and read it all wrong. We now seem to be splitting up for good, with her "wishing me dead, and hope (you) rot in hell".
    It's an ill wind, as they say. A very bad day all round.
    But nowhere near as bad as it must be for David and Zac, and MA's mother. And Tanya, who found her in the first place. How must she feel right now? They are all in my thoughts tonight in the UK. As is their mother, MA, the stupid fucker. As also is my own wife, actually. What a shitty day. "If I Could Turn Back Time" prophesised Cher. Exactly.
    The good news is that a couple from MWO are able to speak to Mike on the phone, and will post updates that I shall put here as and when I come across them.
    Please join in here too. She did so much to make this site happen after it was hijacked and sabotaged by Julie. Without MA, I probably wouldn't have carried on. And up to the last time she e-mailed me, she was still telling me to get back with Julie. Bless her.
    Pip xx

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  109. Hello guys,

    I am new here, and have been meaning to post a message to meet you all for a while now, as I have recently started on my Baclofen journey.

    I am so sad to be posting my first message after such awful, awful news about MaryAnne. I'm on MWO as 'eight days a week' and have only been active there for a week or two, but had read her posts up until just a few days ago. The incredible stories of support she has shown others just from that forum alone have truly touched me, she must be a deeply caring person indeed.

    Surely it is positive that she has been trying to move a little? I've seen a family member pull through from a similar situation after such small signs, it sounds like if anyone deserves to, MaryAnne does.

    MaryAnne, you are in all my thoughts and prayers tonight, and have been since I read the news on MWO.

    I hope so much to talk you someday soon, from everything I hear I would be a very lucky person to do so.

    Much love to you,

    eight

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  110. Hello sir.
    About time too!!!
    Keep it going sir, keep it going!!
    You would be lucky to meet her. It wouldn't always be sensible or even coherent. "Ditzy" was the word she always used. But it was always so well meant, and without any hint of malice or vitriol whatsoever.
    Not a bad bone in her. Hundreds of us know that.
    That is why the whole world is praying for her tonight in huge numbers.
    Fear the worst, my friends. Fear the worst. Whatever the worst might be. I just hope that her God does the right thing for her.
    But maybe, just maybe, a thousand souls praying for her will bring her back.
    Wouldn't that be great.
    Pip xx

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  111. Thanks Dr Pip.

    I'm spiritual, not religious, but I absolutely believe in the power of prayer, having seen a miracle once in a similar situation.

    Let's keep those prayers flying in from around the world as they have been so far, from her many, many friends. MaryAnne needs us right now.

    Pete

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  112. NC here. Mary Anne is in my prayers. She was always so encouraging to me. I wish her well.

    NC

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  113. I'm still in shock.

    Hi Peter and Welcome, as you say not a great time to enter, but hey we are glad to see you here.

    As its been said, MaryAnne was an incredibly supportive person, unfortunately she just couldnt handle her life anymore. I dont know what Mike did in the last few days, but she told me all about how the boys werent speaking to her, and that she spent Christmas in bed crying.

    What a prick this Mike must be, I hope he is feeling really friggin guilty.

    Mary Anne, we all love you sweetie, we want you back. Please please please let her recover.

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  114. Many thanks for the kind welcome Trixie, even though it is such an awful moment to have first posted here right now.

    The latest news at MWO looks slightly (with great emphasis) more promising. Many more prayers are needed though I'm certain.

    Come on, Mary Anne, I wanna meet this 'disty' lady who so many people love!!

    Pete xxx

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  115. I've had one e-mail from Tanya (her best friend and the one who found her).
    MA has been thrashing her legs round like crazy, but hasn't moved her top half at all. She opens her eyes a little, but does not appear to look at anything or see those around her. She is having an EEG, and a neurologist should be assessing her brain function just about now.
    Tanya felt that it was likely that she will not die, that physically her body (or parts of it) will survive, but that her brain might be very poor indeed.
    Sad and pointless

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  116. Just heard that MA moving about a lot more, and getting irritated about all the tubes. She apparently said "I love you" to nobody in particular, but they think to one of the nurses.
    Mike is with her almost all the time, and is being described as "pretty decent".
    The hope is to try take out her (presumably) nasogastric tube tomorrow, and see if she can drink. How fucking ironic is that!
    So, all going in the right direction, but don't get your hopes up yet. These things are slow, and often "one step forward, two steps back".
    Pip xx

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  117. That has relieved things to know those updates - thanks Pip.

    With a lotta luck she might just make it, amazing that Mike is there all the time, that surprised me.

    I guess he really should, and I'm not going to say anymore.

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  118. Over the next few days / weeks, the immediate issues for MA are:-
    1 Has she any residual physical disability (limb paralysis / weakness etc). If so, where, how much, how bad etc
    2 Has she any higher brain cognitive problems?
    3 Is she continent of urine and faeces?
    4 Has she any residual cranial nerve damage (vision (esp) / hearing / swallowing (esp) / facial / smell etc)
    5 Has what seems like 500mg of Baclofen and a ton of booze stuffed an already compromised liver beyond its limits? I hope to God that she didn't take any paracetamol (aminoacetophen) as well.
    6 She mustn't develop another medical complication in hospital, such as pneumonia, heart attack, heart or kidney or liver failure, blood clots, MRSA etc. That would be a disaster of Biblical proportions right now, but not unexpected. She was very very poorly nourished when she did this. Skeletal was how it has been worded to me. Very muscular, but extremely thin.
    So, a very long way to go, my friends.
    Apparently, Mike has been crying constantly for days by her bedside, and it is thought that if she pulls through intact, then their marriage will be intact. That is what I am told. I pray so.

    Pip xx

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  119. Oh dear God, we must keep the prayers up, cause its in his hands now.

    Its such a shame that it takes something like this for people to realize that they really do love someone. It could be too late for Mike now.

    All she wanted was for him to stop/cut down the drinking, and the marriage would have been fine. Look what alcohol does. He chose it over MaryAnne.

    It's a wicked horrible fucking disease - to take Pip's analogy of it. I just hope she makes a full recovery. Its a sad sad situation that didn't have to be.

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  120. Well said Trix. Well said.
    Her friends say that they know that they both love each other. I guess, after 20 years of marriage, their problems just got out of hand.
    HFD does that to people.
    It's done it to me often enough.
    I had hoped that me and Julie could make a really good go of it, but that seems to have faded for good now.
    I wish I'd never had a drink ever.
    When I was 18, if I'd had Baclofen rather than alcohol, God knows where or what I'd be now. Actually, I do know. I'd be a Professor of Surgery, or a Professor of Medical Law. With a loving wife and my own kids to be proud of.
    I hate this anxiety-generated HFD. I really do.
    Pip xx

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  121. Many thanks for the summary of what faces MaryAnne from now on Dr Pip. It seems like an insurmountable list, but I've seen first hand someone come through all this, so all our prayers and god/the universe-willing...

    Perhaps some haven't got themselves into such a very helpless, utterly selfish state as I have with my own alcoholism over the past year or so, but I know that it's a beast that, once it has you in its most deadly of grips, and no matter how much you love your family and friends, the beast will make itself come first, no matter what...

    I mean to make no comment on how MA's husband has behaved, I can only speak for myself, as I don't know anything about that. But I know in my heart of hearts, although I haven't been aggressive or unpleasant, the beast and such a very low situation has put itself first at times, and I know I've neglected my family, and even caused them great distress, but I was absolutely helpless to do otherwise. Thank god I didn't try anything too stupid, although I did have fleeting thoughts at my worst, and know how everyone's dear Mary Anne may have given in to those temptations...

    Enough rambling from me. My love and prayers again Mary Anne, I simply cannot wait to meet you in person...

    Pete xxx

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  122. You will meet her Peter, we have to be positive and pray that she will make a full recovery. After all, miracles do happen - you said you've seen it.

    All I can say, is let this be a major lesson to us all, about how HFD rules and controls your life. Its like being possessed by a demon, trapped in a prison you cant escape from. MA's case is almost as dire as it can get. Death is worse.

    With all the problems/deaths associated with Alcohol and Tobacco, you'd think the Gov't would ban them, but oh no - we make far too much money. Don't worry about the poor souls who get hooked on the stuff.

    Peter this is a huge step in your recovery to learn how it takes hold of you - and to accept that you have a problem. So many al abusers wont admit it, and its the first step. It can only be up from here.

    Pip, Julie isn't the one for you. I'm sure there's another much more kind and loving woman waiting there for you to find her. I hope and pray that you do.

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  123. You reckon?

    Next she will think that me and you are having an affair across half the world.

    But I love her so much it tears at me.

    Pip xx

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  124. If she was the one for you, then she would forgive you. Not be jealous of every woman you speak to. She would understand that you are able to have a warm friendship with another female and not feel threatened. You don't need shit thrown at you like that. Just my opinion.

    Yes I'm sure you have hurt her, but if she truly loved you she would see that you are doing your best to heal yourself. Sorry if that's a bit harsh, just saying it like I see it.

    Re focus and find someone else who will love you for YOU! Its called unconditional love and its hard to come by.

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  125. Thank you so much Trixie. I try to be as positive as I can, and all my prayers are with her. It sounds as best as may be so far, so I cannot wait to speak to her, god willing, and give her the biggest virtual hug and let her know what an impression she's made on me even though I've never met her!!

    What you wrote reminded me about a tongue-in-cheek (?) question in a paper a few days ago - 'who's been responsible for the most deaths in the world?' the answer given was the chap who brought tobacco back from the Americas to Europe! Personally, I think all known substances should be legal but more highly regulated. I went to a state specialist inpatient detox almost a year ago, and they were all heroin addicts there. Why? Because drug crime and deaths make more newspaper headlines than alcohol ones. And the main health problems that the drug users in there had? Problems with their veins and major organs due to injecting the adulterants in those drugs such as brick dust and the like. My goodness, this world is a sick place at times, as much as it is beautiful...

    My friend, I'm no AAer (been there, tried that - didn't work for me) but I'm already a (very long!) year into knowing I have a huge problem, and I totally accept AA step one 'I am powerless over my addiction' (forget the wording exactly).

    Up from here, exactly! I've been at lowest point, fought for over a year, went back down there again, carried on fighting. And now I've found Bac along with the Nal (which has helped me tremendously) and now you all :)I'll carry on with the battle, I have too much FAR too much to give the world to quit out of here any time soon, promise :)

    Much love to all, hope the news about the 'ditsy' one I care so much to meet is EVEN better tomorrow - god knows she deserves it.

    Pete xxx

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  126. I've been off the grid for a week and just got through reading the threads here and on MWO. Great news on her recovery. Looking forward to seeing her back healthy and doing what she does best: helping others.

    D.

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  127. Peter you are going to make it, I can tell by the way you write that you are desperately committed to get this monkey off your back, as Pip always says.

    We are a small community here, I hope that one day soon, it grows larger and the B4a site gets the recognition it deserves, and help loads more people in our situation.

    Hiya Deric, good to see you back, and yeah we are still praying for MA.

    Any updates Pip???

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  128. Hi you lot

    This is direct from the horse's mouth from one of her friends via MWO. Great news!!

    "She is up and talking, recognizes people (and her room is always full of visitors). She was starving for spaghetti and caramel pie, but the hospital made her eat their horrible food. But eat it she did! She wasn't able to read this morning. We hope that part of her brain will recover though. She will probably be moved out of the ICU and into a regular room in the next couple of days. Then, I'm sure, she'll be what's called "Baker Acted" in Florida and sent to the psych ward for at least three days where she'll get counseling, etc. She is very restless in bed, wants to get up and move around (she's never been good at even getting enough sleep, so this is not surprising). Looks like she's gonna come back to us guys!!!"

    How about that, then?
    Pip xx

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  129. Dr Pip, what incredible news! Wow!! She must be aware now of the huge outpouring of love and support on MWO. God willing, a full recovery, and the this just may be a defining moment in her life. My goodness, it just drives home again what a miracle life itself is, doesn't it?

    Thank you so much again Trixie for your encouragement. Yes, I'm going to make it, I haven't fought so very and hard for this long not to! AND I'm going to drag anyone else who needs to come along with me if I have to!!

    It's been a pleasure to meet you (and everyone else here) do you have a story on this site so I could tap into your experiences? Mine is up at MWO (long read it is though - and I'm far from anywhere near a great condition myself yet!)

    Love to all, with continued prayers for Mary Anne and her family,

    Pete xxx

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  130. Hi Pete
    Glad you stayed.
    Please continue to do so, my friend.
    Pip

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  131. Thanks Pip! I'm staying, oh don't worry about that!

    *pulls blanket up over himself, stretches legs, and snuggles into the comfy seat*

    Just waiting for the guest of honour now (the one with 'ditsy' on her t-shirt!) to come back to us and help me settle in totally.

    Come on Mary Anne, and let all the prayers continue, for as Dr Pip says, she still has a lot of hurdles to overcome (even though it sounds like she's getting extra hurdling practice in already!)

    Life is so very, very precious, what a timely reminder this has been to me.

    Pete xxx

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  132. Perfect, Pete, my friend. Perfect.
    A timely reminder to us all.
    Me especially.
    I miss my wife.
    Pip xx

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  133. Absolutely Awesome news to wake up to. Thanks Pip!!

    All our prayers have been heard, still a way to go, so keep them up.

    Lets hope that MA can get her life on track now and beat this HFD, and get her marriage back together and find some happiness. It will take a lot of hard work and effort I would expect. But she's been given a 2nd chance and a lot of people dont get that.

    She will need out support now, and Peter looks like you will get to meet our ditzy MA afterall, how awesome is that =)

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  134. Been gone a while. Welcome Peter. Trix and Pip, it is good to hear about Mary Anne. Again, she has always been supportive of me and I am excited to hear she is doing so well. She has been and will be a great contributor to MWO and this site. Invaluable advice, support, humor, and class. She deserves better things to come.
    NC

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  135. Many thanks Pip, Trixie, and to NC for the kind welcome.

    Any news today?

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  136. I haven't heard anything yet. To be honest Pete, we might go a few days now before there is much to update. Slow steady progress in the order of the day. I could contact Mike (her husband), but he's got more on his plate right now than to keep talking to well wishers. According to MA's closest friends who are there with her, the stark realisation that he nearly lost his wife and how much he didn't realise his depth of love for her being just one of them.

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  137. Thanks so much Pip. As you know, I've seen something similar first hand. It took years of gradual progress, and of course I absolutely hope it won't take so very long in MA's case, but the only important thing right now is what an incredible blessing it is to have that chance in the first place.

    We have all been so lucky so far, we need to keep the prayers up though that that luck continues.

    Pete xx

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  138. Hi Pete and everybody
    Second, and third, and fourth etc chances are everything.
    It's all gone very quiet on the MA front. I am very very deliberately keeping well out of it. I got trouble everywhere I look, and I don't need any more of it.
    Not even her best friends seem to know where she is or what is happening to her. I'm sure Tanya does, but nobody else.
    I've got the biggest dose of gastroenteritis you can imagine, and a sick dog, so I'm just gonna keep my head own, and hope that it all goes away.
    I'm now out of their loop, but if I hear anything, I shall of course pass it on.
    We need a bit of humour around here.
    Pip xx

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  139. Look after yourself and get well Pip, you dont need any extra stress. Bit of a worry not knowing what's going on, I suppose we'll hear something, somewhere, someday - yes we do need some humour.

    Anyone got any good news or a good joke. Sorry I have a heap of crap going on with me at the moment, nothing I cant handle, but nothing worth sharing to brighten everyone's day up.

    Except for my freelance writing is taking off at at a great pace, I was so engrossed tonight after I got home from work, writing articles I forgot to have a drink!!!

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  140. Hi

    A brewery owner had to tell a wife that her husband had drowned in a vat of beer.
    "Did he suffer much?" she asked.
    "I don't think so. He got out four times for a piss"

    No news about MA, but then I'm not looking. There are a couple of people who might tell me privately, but we'll see.
    Pip xx

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  141. MaryAnne posted on MWO, it seems our prayers have been answered, what an incredible miracle!!!

    Pip, so sorry to hear you're not well. I had that gastro thingy a few months back, it's horrendous, do so much hope you feel better soon.

    Pete xxx

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  142. Thanks for that Pete. Julie text me last night to say the same thing (although she wasn't quite so pleased). However, I am so pleased for her and her family that she has come through this. Hopefully, she will start to sort her life out properly now.

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  143. Yes I logged onto MWO for the first time since Christmas. She has a thread almost 50 pages long dedicated to her - quite a celebrity. I saw her post.

    I wonder why she hasn't posted here, she says she feels very embarrassed, but that doesn't matter, what matters is that she is alive and well.

    I have emailed her and am waiting to hear back from her. Hope its soon.

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  144. Hi
    I don't know why she not posted. I've not heard from her at all.
    I'm getting untold shit privately from MWO members. I can't get on to block them. In future I'm just going to delete them immediately. I used to get really nice ones. Julie has a hell of a lot to answer for with those disgusting postings. She really has let the dogs loose on me. Second time in six months.
    Good news is that I'm getting a lot of totally new people contacting me through the site. People just about to start Baclofen, so that should bring some good experience for us.
    Pip xx

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  145. I sent her an email and she has responded to me. I was really pleased. I know she's back at work - amazing! And she is moving into an apartment of her own. I dont know any more details.

    It's not nice when you see someone from a different angle and see their bad side - sorry you are being treated that way Pip, you don't deserve it, but on the flip side, great you are getting more contacts =)

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  146. Thanks for that.
    I'm pleased that she is doing well. Although it all sounds "a bit too much, a bit too quickly" to me. I hope that it doesn't put too much upon her. I also hope she has 'proper' support and is not just flying solo.
    The rest is just shit, and eventually it will go away.
    The fresh faces around the site is good news though.

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  147. I got a very short e-mail from MaryAnne yesterday. Nothing to add to what she has said to everybody else already. I'm getting a lot of new visitors, and I'm looking to put "live" Baclofen Diaries on the site. Anonymous, but "warts and all". A bit like the one I do, but totally under the writer's own control. Both the good and bad on Baclofen and all this. Updated as much as the writer wished. Would anybody be interested?

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  148. Pip, did I or did I not predict that you would eventually get more visitors? Yes I did, and look at what has happened. LOL

    I'm really pleased that you are finally getting somewhere, must make you feel great. I wont be taking part in the Baclofen diaries, as I am not taking it anymore, its a fantastic idea though. Helps people keep track and document their progress and also helps others considering it or going through their own experiences.

    Great to hear MA has contacted you too.

    Love to all

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  149. Hi guys, haven't posted for a few days, but hope everyone's well. Are you better now Pip? I hope MaryAnne's doing well still, she must have a lot on her plate.

    I think the idea about diaries is great! A forum linked to the website would be even better, as people could post their progress on threads (just like I do on MWO) but that'd take a lot of work I think. Diaries is definitely the next best thing.

    Pete x

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  150. hey all, it has been weeks or longer since I have been here, thanks for the blog/vlog Pip, tho I couldn't hear it on this pc................brain coming back slowly but surely, eating lots of EFAs per dr. orders as the brain is primarily fat.......have not started back on bac yet, maybe after a while, as the cravings have returned double!!! good to be here, wishing you all the best..............glad to be alive, thanks for all the positive thoughts and prayers, MA

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  151. Thanks all you here, just read through the posts, welcome Pete, good to see u Trix and NC, I am not quitting on u guys!! I just am still recovering, going back to work was a necessity as I am single and going paycheck to paycheck (hopefully, haven't gotten a budget or anything like that together yet..........pip, glad this site is going well, I am off to bed again, as I have nicely developed a horrid head cold, you can keep your gastroenteritis, thank you very much, this is enough for me at the moment, I just don't like wasting a day off in bed sick, then I go back into work Sat,Sun and Mon night, that is the rough round..............always come off it a little "not well",no other jobs out there, and prince charming isn't going to rescue on his steed any time soon, hahaha!! lots of love to you guys!!!! Mary Anne xoxoxoxo

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  152. Absolutely Awesome to have you back MA, Im glad you are recovering, not so good the cravings came back stronger though.

    What are EFA's you have to eat?

    Sorry to hear you are not well, look after yourself and get plenty of rest. Look forward to hearing how things progress for you.
    Trix

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  153. Mary Anne,
    Good to have you back. Hang in there. I am going to PM you on MWO.

    To all, I am up to 200 mg a day and still am not indifferent to alcohol. I am getting discouraged but will keep going up. I have to get there.

    NC

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  154. Hang in there NC, remember we're all here for you.

    The right dose might just be around the bend, remember you cant see the light at then end of the tunnel until you get to the bend.

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  155. Feeling better today, now just medicine head...........NC, hope your cravings go away soon, and u become indifferent to al soon..........

    EFAs dr. wants me to take are fish/borage/flax oils, avocados, which are on sale right now, fatty fish etc............and definitely stay away from al, which is hard but I am doing it, still worrying all the time, which bac took away, so am going to ask dr. when and if it will be safe for me to get another rx for it, as I have none..........??? scared about alot of things now..........glad this site is taking off pip, told u waaaayyy back that I knew it would, positive thoughts about it always,.....

    NC, Peter, Trix, anyone else out there thanks for being here!!!

    Mary Anne w/ love.............

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  156. HI ALL YOU SADDOS! ESPECIALLY YOU MARY ANNE. I KNOW WHAT YOU WERE UP TO WITH PHILLIP WHEN HE WAS ACTUALLY GETTING BACK WITH ME. IVE READ EVERYTHING YOU SENT EACH OTHER AND ITS PURE FILTH. HE WAS ACTUALLY SLEEPING WITH ME AT THE TIME. HE IS A TOTAL CHARLATAN AND LIAR..DONT BELIEVE A WORD OF ANYTHING HE SAYS! ILL BE BACK. HOPE YOURE READY FOR TROUBLE MARY!!

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  157. you and "dr" phill both took over doses...its just a shame they didnt work on the filthy pair of you..i also know youre not the only one he was up to it with..your friend trix amongst others! hes a dirty old liar!

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  158. We all know what my ex is like, don't we? She really is a boo boo. Just ignore her. I was going to take the Message Board down, but she simply isn't worth it.

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  159. i was more bloody worth it than your alchy loony friends and lovers actually...shame you didnt realise it. you are such a compulsive liar its unbelievable. people need to know what a fake you are..I wonder if I should publish those filthy emails between you and mary anne?? i was such a fool to believe you and give you another chance at happiness with a wife and family that loved you. more fool you in the end

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  160. if your internet "friends" could see what you had lost then theyd think you were bloody mental too...a lovely, young,pretty, loving wife and a daughter that worsphips you... more than youre worth thats for sure. LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  161. SO, WHO WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE FILTHY EMAILS SHARED BETWEEN MY HUSBAND PHILLIP AND MIKES WIFE MARY ANNE? AT A TIME WHEN THEY WERE BOTH MARRIED!!

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  162. any takers? email me and i will personally email you the filthy emails posted by fake docter phill to his online girlfriend mary anne as well as others!!

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  163. reading your above posts trixie, id like to say to you that you dont have a clue about mine and phillips marriage, how could you? i did love him unconditionally..if you saw the filthy sexy emails sent between the pair of them you would know exactly why i feel the way i do..because i did love him and i did forgive him and forgive him countless times over five years together..there are just some things you cant forgive and if you saw those emails he sent her (at a time he was getting back together with me) you would know exactly what i mean. dont speak unless you know what youre talking about and Im afraid to say that phillip is such a liar that you will never know the truth unless it came from me

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